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Cyborg Girl

Post  Arti on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:57 pm


Is this the girl from Cyborg She?

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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  ico on Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:56 pm

no, on the picture is "Kyoko Fukada"
the girl from Cyborg She is "Haruka Ayase" -use wikipedia once in a while http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg_She
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Sorry

Post  Arti on Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:53 pm

I didn't think of doing that.
Excuse me for living. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  Kthomp06 on Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:04 am

nick11380 wrote:Trungs goal is to make Aiko as human like as possible. So I would hate to see Trung waste his time and money working on Aikos breasts when he has so many other more productive things he could be working on.

Once Aiko is mass produced is the time to start looking into making different breast sizes if there is enough demand for it. Until then, if her breasts aren't big enough for you get her a padded bra.

Ok this doesn't make sense to me, first you say Le's goal is to make Aiko as human like as possible. Then you say you would hate to see Le waste his time and money working on a part of the body that would make her look more human like.

I do believe the suggestion was "if and when she goes to market" and I turned it into how it could be done. I don't believe Le is going to start ordering and working on her breats, but it would be some thing to put on a consider this list.
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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  Kthomp06 on Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:18 am

Arti this is Cyber Girl Haruka Ayse, but that not her birth name her birth name was Tademaru Aya.



I like her face. I sent a email to Le to if out who his j-idle is, and if he would like me to do a portrait of her. If he doesn't want the portrait then maybe I do one of Haruka Ayse for my self.
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Relistic facial features

Post  Kthomp06 on Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:46 am



Arti, I really can't tell from these two faces like you, because they're at two different angles. As for the ears it would depend on what Le is trying to do, but most android heads I've seen have just a small portion of the back of the head open were the hair piece goes. As for the eyes they're usually mounted on the skull frame and the face gets placed over them.
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Aiko V2 face working process

Post  Arti on Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:11 pm

Arti, I really can't tell from these two faces like you, because they're at two different angles. As for the ears it would depend on what Le is trying to do, but most android heads I've seen have just a small portion of the back of the head open were the hair piece goes. As for the eyes they're usually mounted on the skull frame and the face gets placed over them.
Aiko wrote:Hi

Here are some pictures of Aiko V2's face.
The silicone was done by Frank.





I fixed the bold text.

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Aiko V2 face working process

Post  Kthomp06 on Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:02 am

I turned the pictures around so you can see them better.



I believe this is the second face, because the file name on the original picture is Aiko faceV2004. The 004 I believe could be the fourth rendition of the face or the fourth picture of the face.

Now then here's the face of Aiko V1 and the face at her last apperence at the Nov 09 expo show and the new face.



Now this could be the same face but just different angels shots from the camera, I don't know. But notice how the middel faces chin narrows and that to me it looks very much like the face on the right. So could the middel face be the new V2 face??? I haven't heard back from Le yet, I expect it will take some time. Oh the anticipation.
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Aiko V2 face working process

Post  Kthomp06 on Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:25 am

I found 4 more j-idles that the first name starts with "K".
Kitagawa KeikoKoda Kumi

Manabe KaoriShibasaki Kou
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A match!

Post  Artilects rule! on Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:22 am

V1
V2

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Kitagawa Keiko

Post  Artilects rule! on Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:43 am

I can see why Le likes her, and her looks are what I think of when I think of a personal companion.
After flirtation and romance, you can't ignore at some point she will be used for sexual pleasure.
I haven't looked up her age yet, but she looks under 18 which is a minor in the US and Canada.
Modeling Aiko after her could be illegal.

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RE: Kitagawa Keiko

Post  Kthomp06 on Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:20 am

Artilects rule! wrote:I can see why Le likes her, and her looks are what I think of when I think of a personal companion.
After flirtation and romance, you can't ignore at some point she will be used for sexual pleasure.
I haven't looked up her age yet, but she looks under 18 which is a minor in the US and Canada.
Modeling Aiko after her could be illegal.

Ok you know Kitagawa Keiko is V2 by talking to Le or are you making a good guess? Because I only have enough clay to make one portrait.



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Name (romaji): Kitagawa Keiko
Profession: Actress and model
Birthdate: 1986-Aug-22
Birthplace: Kobe, Hyogo, Japan
Height: 160cm (5 feet 3 inches)
Weight: 42kg (92.5 lbs.)
Star sign: Leo
Blood type: O
Family: Younger brother
Talent agency: Stardust
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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  Artilects rule! on Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:40 am

Kthomp06 wrote:
Artilects rule! wrote:I can see why Le likes her, and her looks are what I think of when I think of a personal companion.
After flirtation and romance, you can't ignore at some point she will be used for sexual pleasure.
I haven't looked up her age yet, but she looks under 18 which is a minor in the US and Canada.
Modeling Aiko after her could be illegal.

Ok you know Kitagawa Keiko is V2 by talking to Le or are you making a good guess? Because I only have enough clay to make one portrait.



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Name (romaji): Kitagawa Keiko
Profession: Actress and model
Birthdate: 1986-Aug-22
Birthplace: Kobe, Hyogo, Japan
Height: 160cm (5 feet 3 inches)
Weight: 42kg (92.5 lbs.)
Star sign: Leo
Blood type: O
Family: Younger brother
Talent agency: Stardust
Yes this is just a guess, but in my opinion a very correct one.
The shape of her head is pear or egg shape (elongated) where the jaw goes inward.
Her eyes are not as wide as the first version which means her brows aren't that rounded.
The nose bridge does widen the gap between her eyes.
Since her chin is more pointed, she has a thicker bottom lip.
The tip of her nose is a little bulbous creating an inward curve leading to a more realistic upper lip.

All of these facial features can be found on the new Aiko (and her name begins with K).
More and more American girls are looking older than they are, while Asian girls look younger than they are.

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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  Artilects rule! on Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:49 am

Hey, her birthplace also begins with a K.

Heres a good pic (Photoshop) of her (pic in link):
From DeviantArt

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Facial mimicry progressions.

Post  WulfCry on Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:48 pm

I was wondering although it is nice to see some of the build of Aiko2 new head. What will actually be a new feature to give her that extra, I mean will she show some emotion by simple eye movement or by skin color.
Like having simple mimicry of showing some personal state as blushing , angry , shy.

My small summomo project has halted for a while, The year starts slowly stuff have to be picked up again.

What would be the simplest way to portrait emotion that both accompany voice and facial expression.
Caus I was thinking about using some multicolor led changing from white, orange and red for some emotionel states. Thinking cheap here Smile. For the eye movement was thinking about a mechanism making them look big or small like squeezing to look for objects, Well something like that.

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She's alive!

Post  Arti on Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:41 pm

At the start of this thread Le says he's working on more realistic facial expression, and the BRIANS software can hold more of them, such as subtleties between angry and annoyed or sad and disappointed (AKA "blue").
The eyes themselves can also have more of a warmth to them when interacting with a human.
Maybe he can make involuntary blinks like a human (random timer), just to make her more life like (keeps dust out of eyes).

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emotions

Post  Arti on Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:11 pm

What would be the simplest way to portrait emotion that both accompany voice and facial expression.
Caus I was thinking about using some multicolor led changing from white, orange and red for some emotionel states. Thinking cheap here Smile . For the eye movement was thinking about a mechanism making them look big or small like squeezing to look for objects, Well something like that.
Before thinking mechanical, we must define the differences in human terms.
What creates an expression when we speak to another person?
It's a physical response to an emotional verbal cue (list emotional cues here).

I noticed when Aiko slapped Le in a Youtube video, there was no facial response (annoyed) or even appropriate vocal inflection (disgusted).
This would play a big part in Aiko or Yumecom mass appeal, with the option to reverse all or some negative emotion unless prompted.

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RE: emotions

Post  Kthomp06 on Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:50 pm

You might want to look at my posting under walking devices.

3D motion Capture for the face



This is probably some thing for V3 face or some thing to put on the consider this list for later.

Has any one hear from Le, because he hasn't signed on since Jan 9. I hope he is well and busy and not in some hospital.
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building facial features

Post  Kthomp06 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:17 am

Ok he's one way I found on howto build facial features.

You start off with a skull frame.



You add some eye's.



You add a face with piano wire to pull the skin up and down.



You put the wires through the skull.



You hook the wires to the servo's.



Then if you want to remove the head you can have a base with 4 screws and away you go.



Then all you have to do is write the sub-routines that send the signal to the controller board that tells the servo's when to move at the right time. It's in this video.

Sorry no sound see the next one.



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RE: building facial features

Post  Kthomp06 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:26 am

Here's a video with sound.

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No plugin

Post  Arti on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:59 am

Actually I can't see either one because I don't have the plugin and am unwilling to download it.
Can you find the same video on Google?
I like to convert it to mp4 for iPod, and convert that to MPEG-4 for PSP.

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Re: Aiko V2 new mainboard and face.

Post  Aiko on Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:26 am

Hi all,

Save you all from guessing.
My favorite Idol is Fukada Kyoko.
Aiko V2 will be FK.



But Haruka Ayase looks cute too in Cyberg She.
I wouldn't mind modeling after her for Aiko V3
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Face type

Post  Arti on Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:13 am

For a non Asian face, you can go with a more exotic look with Tila Tequila (real name Tila Nguyen).



Source: tilatequila.info
Tila was born in Singapore and her parents are French Vietnamese (lived in Vietnam).
That kinda makes her Asian.

The bisexual fantasy would be a good selling point as well.
The real Tila moves too fast for me though.

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Use of face

Post  Arti on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:14 am

Ok I found another picture that I believe she is like 14 or 15 years old.
The picture you posted was not from when she was 14 or 15.
The pic is from the TV series Friends in 2002.
Fukada Kyoko was 19 years old (almost 20) at the time (legal).
kyokofukada.org

Le, I was wondering if she gets any credit for using her face on Aiko.
Did her agency give you permission to use her face in the press and eventually mass produce it?

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RE: Face type

Post  Kthomp06 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:16 pm

I like the last photo better then the first and second photo.
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